Does Spade sleep with Brigid in the book? I don't remember him sleeping with her in the movie--although the sexual tension is there.
There's also the scene at the end when Gutman palms a 100-dollar bill and blames it on Brigid. In the movie, Spade trusts Brigid when she denies that she took it and I've always liked that touch. It feels like he's pushed her but never too far so that at the critical moment there's a real capacity for trust.
In the book, he makes her strip and he searches her clothes for the missing bill, which is, perhaps, more realistic but doesn't feel as powerful.
In The Big Sleep, Marlowe makes out with the chick in the bookstore across from Geiger's--in the movie at least, though not in the book. I guess a guy can't be too much of a gentleman in the movies.
I took the scene with Brigid that he slept with her, it is so implied. It's not explicit, as in, no love scene, but it is certainly implied they did.
I've not seen the movie, I want to watch it thought.
Agreed on the strip search. It was an awkward move to me.
The Big Sleep movie, that makeout was a lot different than the book. I know they toned Chandler down, thinking the book too violent and graphic, like the sister being caught in an underground pornographic ring, they changed things. But that makeout was interesting.
OK, you're right, Spade sleeps with Brigid. In the book (at the end of chapter 9) it is implied but very clear. In the movie, it is much more ambiguous.
I've read The Maltese Falcon (and Chandler's The Big Sleep) several times. But I've seen the movies at least a dozen times (each). So I've probably let the movies color my reading too much.
Now that we're having this discussion, I'm noticing that, in the book, Spade struggles a lot more with a weakness towards women, whereas, in the movie, the affair with Eva (his partner's wife) is treated more as a one-off mistake.
I reread the beginning of chapter 3 "Three Woman" last night where he first has to deal with Eva and then is left alone in his office with his secretary Effie.
"[Effie is standing beside Sam, who is seated.] (Effie's) thin fingers finished shaping the cigarette. She licked it, smoothed it, twisted its ends, and placed it between Spade's lips. He said, "Thanks, honey," and put an arm around her slim waist, and rested his cheek wearily against her hip, shutting her eyes."
That's what irked me the most with Spade, he can't keep it in his pants. It makes me wonder his moral code. Marlowe isn't a boy scout, and a boy scout character would be boring, but Spade's weakness with women, how he not only goes for conquest or fun, but sinks the emotional hooks in, really made me question him.
Yep, you're right. Next time I do a Dashiell read-through, I'll have to pay closer attention to the Continental Op stories and see where he lands. I don't remember the Continental Op having a weakness with women, but, obviously, I wasn't paying that close of attention.
Continental Op seemed to have no possible love interest in it. It was definitely a big switch with Spade. But Maltese Falcon had Hammett finding his stride prose wise.
Does Spade sleep with Brigid in the book? I don't remember him sleeping with her in the movie--although the sexual tension is there.
There's also the scene at the end when Gutman palms a 100-dollar bill and blames it on Brigid. In the movie, Spade trusts Brigid when she denies that she took it and I've always liked that touch. It feels like he's pushed her but never too far so that at the critical moment there's a real capacity for trust.
In the book, he makes her strip and he searches her clothes for the missing bill, which is, perhaps, more realistic but doesn't feel as powerful.
In The Big Sleep, Marlowe makes out with the chick in the bookstore across from Geiger's--in the movie at least, though not in the book. I guess a guy can't be too much of a gentleman in the movies.
I took the scene with Brigid that he slept with her, it is so implied. It's not explicit, as in, no love scene, but it is certainly implied they did.
I've not seen the movie, I want to watch it thought.
Agreed on the strip search. It was an awkward move to me.
The Big Sleep movie, that makeout was a lot different than the book. I know they toned Chandler down, thinking the book too violent and graphic, like the sister being caught in an underground pornographic ring, they changed things. But that makeout was interesting.
OK, you're right, Spade sleeps with Brigid. In the book (at the end of chapter 9) it is implied but very clear. In the movie, it is much more ambiguous.
I've read The Maltese Falcon (and Chandler's The Big Sleep) several times. But I've seen the movies at least a dozen times (each). So I've probably let the movies color my reading too much.
Now that we're having this discussion, I'm noticing that, in the book, Spade struggles a lot more with a weakness towards women, whereas, in the movie, the affair with Eva (his partner's wife) is treated more as a one-off mistake.
I reread the beginning of chapter 3 "Three Woman" last night where he first has to deal with Eva and then is left alone in his office with his secretary Effie.
"[Effie is standing beside Sam, who is seated.] (Effie's) thin fingers finished shaping the cigarette. She licked it, smoothed it, twisted its ends, and placed it between Spade's lips. He said, "Thanks, honey," and put an arm around her slim waist, and rested his cheek wearily against her hip, shutting her eyes."
Pathetic.
That's what irked me the most with Spade, he can't keep it in his pants. It makes me wonder his moral code. Marlowe isn't a boy scout, and a boy scout character would be boring, but Spade's weakness with women, how he not only goes for conquest or fun, but sinks the emotional hooks in, really made me question him.
Yep, you're right. Next time I do a Dashiell read-through, I'll have to pay closer attention to the Continental Op stories and see where he lands. I don't remember the Continental Op having a weakness with women, but, obviously, I wasn't paying that close of attention.
Continental Op seemed to have no possible love interest in it. It was definitely a big switch with Spade. But Maltese Falcon had Hammett finding his stride prose wise.